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	<title>Comments on: Twitter lists: good idea, cumbersome to use, useless in the real world</title>
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		<title>By: Matt Albiniak</title>
		<link>http://demicooper.com/blog/2009/10/30/twitter-lists-good-idea-cumbersome-to-use-useless-in-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1072</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Albiniak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh oh, did we just derail into the Twitter having real value in the real world debate? I&#039;d agree that it does, sort of, but I think we (in the interactive world) tend to forget its reach. You&#039;re right, it&#039;s a great service to break news, find trends, and particularly facilitate a new tool for brand monitoring (and customer service, public relations). Without disagreeing too much, I think Twitter lists (when the list creator is an authority) provides people on Twitter a great new way to discover other users. Ultimately, you are right, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s useful to the real world...yet.

Thanks for the post!
-matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh oh, did we just derail into the Twitter having real value in the real world debate? I&#8217;d agree that it does, sort of, but I think we (in the interactive world) tend to forget its reach. You&#8217;re right, it&#8217;s a great service to break news, find trends, and particularly facilitate a new tool for brand monitoring (and customer service, public relations). Without disagreeing too much, I think Twitter lists (when the list creator is an authority) provides people on Twitter a great new way to discover other users. Ultimately, you are right, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s useful to the real world&#8230;yet.</p>
<p>Thanks for the post!<br />
-matt</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Battaglia</title>
		<link>http://demicooper.com/blog/2009/10/30/twitter-lists-good-idea-cumbersome-to-use-useless-in-the-real-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1071</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Battaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for commenting, Matt!

I guess (and I know I&#039;m in the minority) that Twitter really does have value in the real world. News stories are broken on Twitter, long before MSM picks them up. Twitter&#039;s realtime search can predict trends in everything from what&#039;s hot in pop culture to possibly even predicting outbreaks of H1N1 in a specific area.

I think you&#039;re absolutely correct that if someone took the time to create a List then it likely has value. For hardcore Twitter users like us I think Lists can be a great resource. My main issue was how they&#039;re impractical for most regular users, the consumer.

Thanks for sharing that List. I&#039;ll be sure to check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting, Matt!</p>
<p>I guess (and I know I&#8217;m in the minority) that Twitter really does have value in the real world. News stories are broken on Twitter, long before MSM picks them up. Twitter&#8217;s realtime search can predict trends in everything from what&#8217;s hot in pop culture to possibly even predicting outbreaks of H1N1 in a specific area.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re absolutely correct that if someone took the time to create a List then it likely has value. For hardcore Twitter users like us I think Lists can be a great resource. My main issue was how they&#8217;re impractical for most regular users, the consumer.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing that List. I&#8217;ll be sure to check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Albiniak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Albiniak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To stay in good standing with the FTC, let me clear the air that I am a social media expert. I have a Facebook account, use Tweetdeck, #hashtageverything. The criteria for being a social media expert has been exhausted.

Without even taking a swing at the &quot;what&#039;s the *real* value of Twitter&quot; topic, Twitter is still useless to the real world, so of course lists are, too. Let&#039;s keep in mind, what 10% of the US has a Twitter account (and remember, 10% of Twitter users create 90% of the content)?

But, for people who aren&#039;t social media experts, but use Twitter for, well, anything, I&#039;d argue that lists do have value. Why? You said it best:

&quot;Who has limitless time to create lists on Twitter?&quot;

If someone took the time to create a list, which is a manual one by one process, you can rest assured those people are on that list for a reason -- assuming you&#039;re only checking the lists of people you trust and respect.

Maybe I&#039;m new to Chicago (I am), and want to find other users with shared interests. If I connect to one person that I value, and they&#039;ve created a list, or are on a list, I can tap into other likeminded folks from Chicago. Same for UX, IX, development, and on and on. 

Maybe there&#039;s less value from a marketing application, but strategery was never my strong suit. Then again, if I was @Zappos, I&#039;d probably create a list for my CSRs.

Or if I was @the_nerdery, create a list of Sierra Bravo/Nerdery Interactive employees. 
http://twitter.com/tommyoneill/sierra-bravo

-matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To stay in good standing with the FTC, let me clear the air that I am a social media expert. I have a Facebook account, use Tweetdeck, #hashtageverything. The criteria for being a social media expert has been exhausted.</p>
<p>Without even taking a swing at the &#8220;what&#8217;s the *real* value of Twitter&#8221; topic, Twitter is still useless to the real world, so of course lists are, too. Let&#8217;s keep in mind, what 10% of the US has a Twitter account (and remember, 10% of Twitter users create 90% of the content)?</p>
<p>But, for people who aren&#8217;t social media experts, but use Twitter for, well, anything, I&#8217;d argue that lists do have value. Why? You said it best:</p>
<p>&#8220;Who has limitless time to create lists on Twitter?&#8221;</p>
<p>If someone took the time to create a list, which is a manual one by one process, you can rest assured those people are on that list for a reason &#8212; assuming you&#8217;re only checking the lists of people you trust and respect.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m new to Chicago (I am), and want to find other users with shared interests. If I connect to one person that I value, and they&#8217;ve created a list, or are on a list, I can tap into other likeminded folks from Chicago. Same for UX, IX, development, and on and on. </p>
<p>Maybe there&#8217;s less value from a marketing application, but strategery was never my strong suit. Then again, if I was @Zappos, I&#8217;d probably create a list for my CSRs.</p>
<p>Or if I was @the_nerdery, create a list of Sierra Bravo/Nerdery Interactive employees.<br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/tommyoneill/sierra-bravo" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/tommyoneill/sierra-bravo</a></p>
<p>-matt</p>
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